Subject: Re: M=E=O=W Primer: What all of this garbage is *really* about........ From: "Dave S. King" Date: 1996/12/06 Message-ID: <32A7877C.7DE9@husc.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: alt.college.college-bowl,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.fan.ok-soda,alt.stupidity,alt.usenet.kooks David Kim wrote: > > This post is intended for newbies who are wondering what all of this > feline vocalizaion on the net is all about. This article will be posted > periodically on the following meow-intensive newsgroups: > > alt.fan.karl-malden.nose > alt.college.college-bowl > alt.tv.beavis-n-butthead > alt.fan.ok-soda > alt.stupidity > > And, due to the nature of the subject matter, it will also be posted to > alt.usenet.kooks. > > 12/5/96 > > *** BEGIN MEOW HISTORY *** > > A long, long time ago (in usenet terms), a group of students from > Harvard began posting to the then-empty newsgroup > alt.fan.karl-malden.nose. Since Deja News seems to no longer be keeping > articles from before 1/1/96, I am guessing this occured sometime late in > 1995. Most of the posts were just about their lives. "It's snowing > now," or "I hate writing papers," or "yesterday I did such and such..." > That kind of thing. My guess is that harvard.general did not like them > posting personal messages, so they took it elsewhere. The main posters > in alt.fan.karl-malden.nose were: > > Mark Staloff > Scot J. Trudeau > Julia Starkey (aka just julia) > Julia Kim (no relation to David Kim or to Julia Starkey) > Chuck Truesdell > Susan Marie Groppi > and, most notably, Matt Bruce. > > Early in 1996 Matt Bruce made a comment he will probably regret for a > very long time. He suggested that, just as they "invaded" afkmn, they > should try invading alt.tv.beavis-n-butthead. Ask any of these kids now > and they will INSIST that they were not serious, but at the time they > were already crossposting into alt.fan.pooh and alt.fan.ok-soda. > > The natives of atbnb did not take well to Mr. Bruce's remark. The > "invasion," so to speak, was met with retaliation. Now, it just so > happened that one of the Harvard kids, probably Chuck Truesdell, had a > habit placing "meow meow" in many of his posts, ala Henrietta Pussycat > of Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. There was also a quote of Matt Bruce, > whether it is really he who said this or not I don't know, but it went > > > Meow meow Henrietta Pussycat meow meow meow The Presidents of the United > > States of America meow Kitty? > > > > --Matt > > Somehow or another this led the kind folks of atbnb to dub Matt Bruce > "Commandante Meow Meow Matt Bruce," and to start lots of flames with the > words "meow meow" in them. It just so happened that some of these > flames were discovered by group of rogue spammers that included none > other than John Grubor himself. For those of you not familiar with > Grubor, he is a disbarred lawyer from PA and the grandfather of all > usenet kooks. These spammers started to expand the meow flame war to > more and more newsgroups. They even found it fun to forge the names of > the Harvard kids as the authors of the meow messages. The Harvard kids > attempted, naturally, to stop this forgery, only making the spammers > more angry with the "elitist HIV League weenies." > > It was then decided that the best way to "get back" at the Harvard kids > for preventing them from forging them was to attack them where they > lived. AFKMN was flooded with crossposts about Commandante Meow Meow > Matt Bruce, and a new invention: the MEOW MEOW ARMY. It was also noted > that many of these kids were pariticipants in College Bowl, so > alt.college.college-bowl became another victim of meow attacks. > > By May of 1996 the *real* Harvard students gave up trying to defend > themselves and fled afkmn. I received an e-mail from one of them > informing me that they were going to a group known as alt.groppi (for > Susan Marie Groppi), and not to tell anyone. Alt.groppi is only carried > on a box at Harvard, so they are relatively safe from crossposters > there. > > Meanwhile the Meowers continued their attacks on > alt.college.college-bowl and the rest of Usenet throughout summer and > fall 1996. If anyone tried to get in their way, they flamed them (via a > charming invention known as the "cascade") to hell and back. Meow kind > of took on a life of its own, as newbies saw all of the meow stuff and > said, "That looks like fun..." > > Today alt.college.college-bowl is so choked with meow posts and the like > that actual College Bowlers are unable to use it to discuss matters > concerning quiz trivia games at the college level. Petrea Mitchell, a > student at NYU, started a "cascade watch" to keep track of Meowers and > encourage people to report such spammers to their postmasters (aka > "netcopping"). This has been met with further retaliation (i.e. spam) > by the ever-growing meow community. > > *** END MEOW HISTORY *** > > I *think* that's pretty much the complete story. If you have anything > to add, please respond to this post. It's not bad.